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		<title>By: Say Something Good &#171; Raising My Boychick</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/11/i-never-went-back-on-psychiatric-ignorance-of-breastfeeding/#comment-8187</link>
		<dc:creator>Say Something Good &#171; Raising My Boychick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 22:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I never went back: on psychiatric ignorance of breastfeeding [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sheri</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/11/i-never-went-back-on-psychiatric-ignorance-of-breastfeeding/#comment-3045</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped breastfeeding my daughter when she was 2 months old with very mixed feelings.  I had been on Effexor before I got pregnant and stopped to have a baby.  Pregnancy was fine, but when she was born I crashed completely.  My anxiety became terrible, I was depressed and being exhausted all the time didn&#039;t help.  The idea that breastfeeding and medication didn&#039;t mix was so firmly in my mind that I refused to go on any kind of medication and just suffered for those two months before finally going back on Effexor and stopping the breastfeeding.  

I had always wanted to be the Mom who breastfed in public, doing my share to make it more common for women coming after me.  I saw myself rocking her and nursing her at night and I never expected to stop before 6 months; if anything, I wanted to go as long as possible.  I can&#039;t help but wonder now what might have happened if I had gone on medication right away when she was born.  Could I have avoided the PPD?  Could I have kept breastfeeding?  It bothers me that I can never know the answers to those questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped breastfeeding my daughter when she was 2 months old with very mixed feelings.  I had been on Effexor before I got pregnant and stopped to have a baby.  Pregnancy was fine, but when she was born I crashed completely.  My anxiety became terrible, I was depressed and being exhausted all the time didn&#8217;t help.  The idea that breastfeeding and medication didn&#8217;t mix was so firmly in my mind that I refused to go on any kind of medication and just suffered for those two months before finally going back on Effexor and stopping the breastfeeding.  </p>
<p>I had always wanted to be the Mom who breastfed in public, doing my share to make it more common for women coming after me.  I saw myself rocking her and nursing her at night and I never expected to stop before 6 months; if anything, I wanted to go as long as possible.  I can&#8217;t help but wonder now what might have happened if I had gone on medication right away when she was born.  Could I have avoided the PPD?  Could I have kept breastfeeding?  It bothers me that I can never know the answers to those questions.</p>
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		<title>By: MetisRebel</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/11/i-never-went-back-on-psychiatric-ignorance-of-breastfeeding/#comment-2957</link>
		<dc:creator>MetisRebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for the &quot;Borderlines&quot; out there.

That label is often thrown around heedlessly. And in my experience, it&#039;s usually chucked directly at feminist women, or women who will not submit in some way to the Holy Order of Male Doctor-Hood.

Frankly it needs to be chucked out the door. One is either sociopathic or not, meaning someone has a conscience or not--or one *does* have a conscience and is, to meet some dire need or other, manipulating the doctor or refusing to play nicely in the sandbox with [usually] a male doctor or medical staff. I&#039;ve noticed that women who stand up for their rights either in a psych ward or in a medical environment tend to get slapped with &quot;borderline&quot;. Bluntly, the amount of women I&#039;ve seen wearing that label on their foreheads just does NOT compute.

I worked with mentally ill, actively using drug users and sex trade workers for years. And I can honestly say out of the thousands I met over the years, there were maybe 3 so-called &quot;real borderline women&quot; [and I would have said they were sociopaths] and perhaps 5 true male psychopaths. If it&#039;s that low a percentage in the people who suffer the most in this society--for those in a better strata, it must be even lower.

The rest? Large percentage of PTSD, clinical depression, bipolar, a few with schizophrenia, many with physical illness resulting in unclear thinking and problem solving. 

It also occurred to me that every woman I ever met with the label &quot;borderline&quot; was intensely creative and intelligent. I can only recall one single woman with that label who had an IQ under 120.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for the &#8220;Borderlines&#8221; out there.</p>
<p>That label is often thrown around heedlessly. And in my experience, it&#8217;s usually chucked directly at feminist women, or women who will not submit in some way to the Holy Order of Male Doctor-Hood.</p>
<p>Frankly it needs to be chucked out the door. One is either sociopathic or not, meaning someone has a conscience or not&#8211;or one *does* have a conscience and is, to meet some dire need or other, manipulating the doctor or refusing to play nicely in the sandbox with [usually] a male doctor or medical staff. I&#8217;ve noticed that women who stand up for their rights either in a psych ward or in a medical environment tend to get slapped with &#8220;borderline&#8221;. Bluntly, the amount of women I&#8217;ve seen wearing that label on their foreheads just does NOT compute.</p>
<p>I worked with mentally ill, actively using drug users and sex trade workers for years. And I can honestly say out of the thousands I met over the years, there were maybe 3 so-called &#8220;real borderline women&#8221; [and I would have said they were sociopaths] and perhaps 5 true male psychopaths. If it&#8217;s that low a percentage in the people who suffer the most in this society&#8211;for those in a better strata, it must be even lower.</p>
<p>The rest? Large percentage of PTSD, clinical depression, bipolar, a few with schizophrenia, many with physical illness resulting in unclear thinking and problem solving. </p>
<p>It also occurred to me that every woman I ever met with the label &#8220;borderline&#8221; was intensely creative and intelligent. I can only recall one single woman with that label who had an IQ under 120.</p>
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		<title>By: MetisRebel</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/11/i-never-went-back-on-psychiatric-ignorance-of-breastfeeding/#comment-2956</link>
		<dc:creator>MetisRebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am thoroughly convinced that 90% of people in the therapy field need to be out selling shoes. {and this is from someone who worked in the field} The other 10% get to deal with the fall-out from the incompetents. This man is the proof.

A counsellor&#039;s job of any stripe be that psychiatrist, therapist, social worker [unless you have chosen directive psychology such as Rational Emotive Behavioral Therapy or Cognitive Behavorial Therapy]is to *ask the necessary questions*--in other words help you explore all the alternatives before you make a final decision. Only poor counsellors give advice or tell you how to live your life.

A friend of mine calls them &quot;Lie-chiatrists&quot; because people are forced to lie to them about taking medication or taking less medication or whatever so the person [Note: you are NOT a &quot;patient&quot; that is an object, you are a PERSON who happens to be getting some healthcare] can get their therapeutic or medical needs met.

Ludicrous IMO.

Of course you felt de-humanized. This man didn&#039;t explore what options you had, in the case of wanting a child and breast feeding--he was giving orders like a drill Sargent and &quot;thinging&quot; you. {Meaning, you are not a real person with your own ideas, you&#039;re just a Patient-thing}. It&#039;s a failing many doctors share.

His job was to point out the risks should want to stop medicating and if you chose to do so, in order to breast feed or become pregnant--helped you to taper down the medications that were unsafe during pregnancy. Then explain, to the best of his ability what the possible psychological results might be. And possibly to hook you up with others who could support such a decision and prepare you for the future.

Of course, that would entail him actually doing his job and we can&#039;t have that now, can we?

MetisRebel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am thoroughly convinced that 90% of people in the therapy field need to be out selling shoes. {and this is from someone who worked in the field} The other 10% get to deal with the fall-out from the incompetents. This man is the proof.</p>
<p>A counsellor&#8217;s job of any stripe be that psychiatrist, therapist, social worker [unless you have chosen directive psychology such as Rational Emotive Behavioral Therapy or Cognitive Behavorial Therapy]is to *ask the necessary questions*&#8211;in other words help you explore all the alternatives before you make a final decision. Only poor counsellors give advice or tell you how to live your life.</p>
<p>A friend of mine calls them &#8220;Lie-chiatrists&#8221; because people are forced to lie to them about taking medication or taking less medication or whatever so the person [Note: you are NOT a "patient" that is an object, you are a PERSON who happens to be getting some healthcare] can get their therapeutic or medical needs met.</p>
<p>Ludicrous IMO.</p>
<p>Of course you felt de-humanized. This man didn&#8217;t explore what options you had, in the case of wanting a child and breast feeding&#8211;he was giving orders like a drill Sargent and &#8220;thinging&#8221; you. {Meaning, you are not a real person with your own ideas, you&#8217;re just a Patient-thing}. It&#8217;s a failing many doctors share.</p>
<p>His job was to point out the risks should want to stop medicating and if you chose to do so, in order to breast feed or become pregnant&#8211;helped you to taper down the medications that were unsafe during pregnancy. Then explain, to the best of his ability what the possible psychological results might be. And possibly to hook you up with others who could support such a decision and prepare you for the future.</p>
<p>Of course, that would entail him actually doing his job and we can&#8217;t have that now, can we?</p>
<p>MetisRebel</p>
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		<title>By: Susannah</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/11/i-never-went-back-on-psychiatric-ignorance-of-breastfeeding/#comment-2272</link>
		<dc:creator>Susannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;3 stories like this remind me of why i&#039;ve chosen not to tell my psychiatrist that i am a nursing mom.</description>
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		<title>By: I Never Went Back: On Psychiatric Ignorance of Breastfeeding &#124; Breastfeeding Moms Unite</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/11/i-never-went-back-on-psychiatric-ignorance-of-breastfeeding/#comment-2262</link>
		<dc:creator>I Never Went Back: On Psychiatric Ignorance of Breastfeeding &#124; Breastfeeding Moms Unite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my Breastfeeding and Mental Health series. Today I am honoured to have a guest post from Arwyn at Raising My Boychick who shares her experience of a meeting with her psychiatrist when she was considering having a baby [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my Breastfeeding and Mental Health series. Today I am honoured to have a guest post from Arwyn at Raising My Boychick who shares her experience of a meeting with her psychiatrist when she was considering having a baby [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Y.</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/11/i-never-went-back-on-psychiatric-ignorance-of-breastfeeding/#comment-2252</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy Y.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, I guess I&#039;m really lucky to live in the U.S. and have a psychiatrist who is fine with me taking psych meds while breastfeeding. I&#039;m on Anafranil, Ritalin, and now about to start Seroquel low dose for sleep improvement (for a non-psych medical condition that I have). Have a great pediatrician, too. The $32 I paid for Dr. Hale&#039;s book to take to appointments was also well worth it, but these guys I guess are (rare) gems in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, I guess I&#8217;m really lucky to live in the U.S. and have a psychiatrist who is fine with me taking psych meds while breastfeeding. I&#8217;m on Anafranil, Ritalin, and now about to start Seroquel low dose for sleep improvement (for a non-psych medical condition that I have). Have a great pediatrician, too. The $32 I paid for Dr. Hale&#8217;s book to take to appointments was also well worth it, but these guys I guess are (rare) gems in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Melodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick - That is exactly the type of social worker I do NOT want to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick &#8211; That is exactly the type of social worker I do NOT want to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Anji</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/11/i-never-went-back-on-psychiatric-ignorance-of-breastfeeding/#comment-2240</link>
		<dc:creator>Anji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that :o/ was meant to be :/ ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that <img src='http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> / was meant to be :/ <img src='http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anji</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/11/i-never-went-back-on-psychiatric-ignorance-of-breastfeeding/#comment-2239</link>
		<dc:creator>Anji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not as bad here as it is in the USA, I know that much. Thing is, I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;m bipolar in addition, but the psychiatrist I&#039;m currently seeing is really reticent to give me the damn diagnosis, and I have a feeling he believes that my BPD is making me &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt; to be bipolar or something. :o/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not as bad here as it is in the USA, I know that much. Thing is, I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;m bipolar in addition, but the psychiatrist I&#8217;m currently seeing is really reticent to give me the damn diagnosis, and I have a feeling he believes that my BPD is making me <i>want</i> to be bipolar or something. <img src='http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> /</p>
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