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WFPP Guest Post: My Kid Loves a Kyriarch

The Womanist/Feminist Parenting Primer has been honored with the following contribution from Ruth, who blogs at Look Left of the Pleiades and the group blog Mothers for Women’s Lib.

In this piece, Ruth discusses her experience raising a child with a white cis man who hasn’t explored his privileges and doesn’t wish to, who actively perpetuates kyriarchal notions and undermines her attempts to oppose them. She explores the privilege of having a supportive coparent from the stance of someone who has never yet had such (but is looking forward to in the hopefully-near future), first being partnered with a “kyriarch”, and currently separated and sharing custody with one. She describes the compromises she has had to make, and the lessons — good and bad — her child has learned from those.

She reminds us once again that no matter how noble our intentions, we can never eliminate the kyriarchal influences on our children — and sometimes the very people we are parenting with, whom our children rightfully adore, are the influences we have the least ability to counter.

Ruth wants you to read her bio first, for some context of what she writes:

Ruth is an adult, white, cis, temporarily able bodied, somewhere between working and middle class, queer, fat, mentally ill woman. She lives in Merseyside in the UK with her two year old, Bertie, and two kittehs. She works as a typist in the mornings and as a present mother for her child in the afternoons. She likes both her jobs. Her ex husband has Bertie some nights during the week. Ruth is engaged to Lucy, but Lucy lives in the US and will for a while yet. Ruth isn’t a “welfare queen” but does rely heavily on government assistance which she sees as her wages for her afternoon job.

My Kid Loves a Kyriarch

How do I start? I’ve written a long bio because it will help you understand where I’m coming from when I write this. But really, it’s difficult.

I’ve read many of these wonderful WFPP posts and found myself nodding along with them and waving my metaphorical pom poms at points! Yet I feel like there’s an aspect of most of them that is speaking from a position of privilege, possibly without realising it. The privilege of having a present co-parent. Better still, a present co-parent who is mostly on-side with your parenting ethos.

I’ve never had the latter. When I was with my husband, I did have the present co-parent, and that did make many things easier. Back then, I had a choice. If I wanted our child to be parented in a gentle, feminist-friendly, biologically appropriate way, I had to do everything myself, because he wasn’t on board with the majority of that way of parenting. But if I wanted to share parenting with him more equally, I had to let him have his way on some things I felt were not in our child’s best interests.

I chose the former.

Our child learned in those two years (and especially his first nine months when I was on maternity leave) that his needs would be met wherever possible. That he would have access to human milk on cue including during the night; that he would never be shouted at; that he would never be forced to sleep through the night before he was ready; that he would be worn most of the time until he was able to crawl. He’d never be given a time-out or told “no” just because “it’s good for him to hear it sometimes”. He’d have his own “no” taken seriously. [Eventually, my ex-husband did at least come round to the idea of relatively gentle discipline; certainly no smacking or angry shouting, at any rate, which has put my mind at rest a lot.]

These were good lessons for him to learn.

He also learned that a woman does everything. That a woman changes the nappies. That a woman gets up with him in the middle of the night and tends to his crying, that a woman carries him everywhere; that a woman does all the housework; he learned after the first nine months that even when both parents are away from the house during the day (and it was still a woman who looked after him then; his grandmother) it is still a woman who does everything in the evenings. He also saw his father use words to make his mother cry and sob.

These were not such good lessons for him to learn.

And then me and my husband split.

And gradually, once the dust had settled, my child learned more things. He learned that mothers live small rented houses in poor areas, but fathers live in their own, larger houses in nicer areas. He learned that mothers have tiny televisions and fathers have huge widescreen High Definition affairs with surround sound and cinemascope. He learned that going to the supermarket with his mother takes forever by foot and involves heavy bags being lugged back home, but that doing it with his father is a quick two minute job in the car.

This is not a good lesson for him to learn.

But, he also learns that his father changes nappies now. That his mother does DIY. That fathers can and in often do see their children even when they’ve split from the mother. That mothers don’t always put barriers to access even if the paths of men they don’t like and have reason not to like. That his father also cooks and cleans. That his mother also sometimes sits down and rests in front of the television with a beer.

These are good lessons for him to learn.

At his father’s house, however, he takes in media that reinforces gender stereotypes. He regularly hears language – usually “jokes” – from his father and his friends – that come from a place of unchecked privilege. He is told he is “good” when he behaves in what his father considers appropriate ways for a boy and, although in more subtle ways, the opposite too (feminine = not “good”).

These are not good lessons for him to learn.

And that’s even before you get to the lessons he learns from outside the family unit. The messages from school, from society, the messages that all parents who are feminists are fighting against in their children. Before I can even get to that, I have to fight it in my child’s immediate family situation.

So you’d think that my house would be completely television free, and my child would spend his time playing with dolls, dressed in pink, learning to cook and clean and be kind to our pets, right?

But no. I try. I really do. But I fall short. Because I’m exhausted. Because sometimes, I need to shower and wash and I have to put on the television and frankly I don’t care if Lazy Town is promoting an unhealthy obsession with weight loss and exercise and fat shaming because fuck it, I need to get ready for work and there’s no one to keep an eye on him. Because sometimes, it’s easier to watch endless diggers and dump trucks and lots and lots of fire engines on youtube than to expend mental energy I sometimes just do not have in reading a queer-affirming story book to him. Because sometimes it’s cheaper (or rather, free) to get hand-me-downs of blue blue little boy blue clothes for him than to spend money I don’t have on organic, fairly traded cotton gender-neutral clothes, or even dyes to colour the free blue ones. Because sometimes it’s just easier to wait until he’s gone to bed than insist on us tidying together.

And so on.

I don’t want advice, because I know what I should do; I even know how to do it. And I do do it, sometimes, and I do try to do it more often than not. And I also know this won’t be forever; that one day, Lucy will come over here permanently, and Bertie will live in a household, at least part time, where he has two happy co-parents who love him and share chores equally (though all the other influences will still exist).

But I just wanted to let you know that sometimes, the kyriarchy isn’t just in pre-school or on the television. Sometimes kyriarchy sleeps in the room next to your child.

More of Ruth’s writing can be found at her personal blog Look Left of the Pleiades and the group blog Mothers for Women’s Lib. She has also signed on to the group project I Blame the Mother, because like your loyal blog hostess, she simply didn’t have enough to do online yet.

12 comments to WFPP Guest Post: My Kid Loves a Kyriarch

  • I’d love to write a similar post – and I could – about my experiences “co-parenting” with my ex. Unfortunately he’d more than likely find it and then get really shitty with me about it; he’s already gone on at me once about “taking full custody of Orion” – while I was in a psychiatric hospital no less, like I really needed it right then – and I daren’t push things! But yes, I get where you’re coming from, I’ve been there for over three years now (the ex left when Orion was 8 months old) and I sympathise/empathise completely.

  • You know, I was thinking of you when I wrote this, that you would have some similar experiences.

    I also was worried about the ex finding this, especially after what happened. But I wanted to write it and besides, compared to what he saw in the emails, I don’t think this would make him any angrier.

  • justine walshe

    That was interesting Ruth. Don’t knock yourself , we all know things that we should do but don’t have the time or the energy. I do consider myself fortunate to have a supportive co-parent.

  • Sylvie

    Loved reading that.. So agree with you on so many levels.. You’re doing a damn fine job that’s for sure.
    Nothing wrong with using the tools around us, ie tv crap, to enable us to to get to do what has to be done.
    Every day I ask myself ” would Leon be happier in daycare” and everyday I know the answer ” no way.. ”
    I have to work from home.. Yes
    The boys sometimes have to “potter” while I finish a piece of work and I feel this is good lessons learned.. It works for us!
    My hear is breaking for Leon starts nursery on Monday.
    He’s 3 he needs it shouts the world.
    Well, I digress, world please don’t place your ludicrous expectations, implications, gratifications, gender “appropriatisms” on to my child. Just let him be. Let him be….he that is my quirky sweet Pip Pop Angel faced Angel Cake Pea Wee Leon. ;-//

  • I tell myself, regularly, that my influence will matter the most. That while my children hear things on TV or at school or from relatives that I may disagree with, they still spend most of their time with me. I am still the single largest influence in their life. And I’m doing the best I can. Trusting in that, and letting go of the rest, has helped me in huge ways. We don’t have to be completely perfect all the time.

    It sounds like you’re doing pretty well, given the hand you’ve been dealt. In fact it sounds like you’re doing fabulously. Go easy on yourself if it’s not always completely ideal.

  • The only thing that helps me, when I consider the massive doom that is raising a child in a kyriarchy, is that I was raised in a kyriarchy.  So is everyone I know, which includes all of the awesome anti-kyriarchist folk I know.  I can’t raise a perfect person, but I can try to improve a member of the next generation.

    Onwards and upwards, &c.

    It’s like I’m pre-emptively cutting myself slack.  Some days I’ll have the spoons to have a measured and useful response to someone asking for the gender of my futureKid, and other days I’ll take the easy, gender-binary-reaffirming route because dammit I’m tired.  And it’s fine.

    (I hope to have written this such that my “This is for me” intent comes through, and so it doesn’t seem like I’m telling you not to worry, or anything.)

  • I think XTinaS hits on a very good point. We were all born and raised into kyriarchy. It does affect us all.

    But of course it’s a lot easier to resist kriarchy when you have someone else there who agrees with you on the big issues (like that there even *is* a kyriarchy) and doesn’t slight what you’re doing or actively oppose it. I admit that co-parenting scares me in a lot of ways (and they’re all about *me* and fears of screwing up), but knowing that I will be co-parenting with someone whose parenting philosophy is also mine I is immensely reassuring. Knowing that the child has another parent who’s an unabashed kyriarch is disheartening but that makes it all the more important for my co-parent and step-child that I back her up and console her, take the lead when appropriate, and try to model and teach opposition to kyriarchy (as well as loving them both, of course!). It won’t be a cure all, but I believe that having, as Ruth said, two co-parents who love him and share chores equally will be a significant influence on him.

  • This really resonated with me. Not because my husband is an unexamined kyriarch (he isn’t – although he’s socialised as male, with all that entails, he at least identifies as feminist), but because it reminded me so sharply of the time my then two-year-old son knocked over a pile of things, and when I asked him to help me pick them up explained, patiently and without rancour, “No, children have Mamas.”

    He’s five now, with a one-year-old brother, and I worry that I let far too much of that sort of thing slide. Yes, it’s quicker to tidy up when they’re asleep. Yes, their father goes Out To Work while I snatch moments here and there to do my freelance editing. Yes, I do most of the cooking and laundry. Against that, their father gets up with them in the morning, does a fair bit of visible housework, gets them ready for bed – which is better than nothing, but really not going to undermine the main message.

    My five-year-old is aware that there’s a disconnect somewhere. He wants to write a note to all the people who think that boys shouldn’t wear pink and purple (his favourite colours) and tell them they’re wrong. He pointed out to me that Disney’s Aladdin (*spit* – not my fault, ‘k?) has only one woman in it, which is weird. I take what comfort I can from this sort of thing. I’m raising two people who will most likely benefit from nearly all of the various kyriarchal privileges. The best I can do is try to make sure they’re aware of that.

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  • Really thought provoking post, nice work.

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