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	<title>Comments on: Raising him purple: a defense of gender neutrality in early childhood</title>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/09/raising-him-purple-defense-of-gender-neutrality-in-early-childhood/#comment-13122</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 08:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My biggest reason for planning to raise a child gender neutral is because of the EXTREME pain that making the wrong assumption causes. I&#039;ve heard parents of &lt;i&gt;3 year olds&lt;/i&gt; say that their child has wanted to cut off &quot;his&quot; penis, even being caught taking scissors to it. I can&#039;t even imagine that- 3 years old and already hating your body that much. And while it might actually be bodily dysphoria- I honestly think the real problem is that these children get told &quot;boys have penises, girls have vaginas&quot; (or some &quot;kid-friendly&quot; version), and think that if they just got rid of the penis they&#039;d finally be accepted as the girl they know they are. 

Raising a child gender neutral has never, to me, been about making a non-binary child. I know too many trans people (and, of course, am one) to think that you can do that. If a child is a girl- she is a girl. It doesn&#039;t matter if you raise her to be a girl, a boy, or try to stop her from being either. (but guess which one will make her happy) To me, raising a child gender-neutral is to raise a child to know that no matter what they are, what presentation they prefer, what their pronouns are, or who they&#039;re attracted to- this is fully acceptable and not only will they be loved, they &lt;i&gt;deserve&lt;/i&gt; to be loved and respected. 

I&#039;ve seen some parents of a trans child who, every morning, ask their child if they want to be a boy or a girl today- so that the child knows that whichever they choose is fine, and another mom &lt;a href=&quot;http://open.salon.com/blog/girlyboymama/2010/05/16/whooooo_are_you_i_really_wanna_know&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;who sometimes &quot;checks-in&quot;&lt;/a&gt; to see what gender her child is identifying with. You can do some form of that as soon as a child is old enough to show preferences- which isn&#039;t very old at all. I don&#039;t really think that a few years of not enforcing gender on a child will ruin them for life if &lt;i&gt;decades&lt;/i&gt; of forcing a person into the wrong gender role doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My biggest reason for planning to raise a child gender neutral is because of the EXTREME pain that making the wrong assumption causes. I&#8217;ve heard parents of <i>3 year olds</i> say that their child has wanted to cut off &#8220;his&#8221; penis, even being caught taking scissors to it. I can&#8217;t even imagine that- 3 years old and already hating your body that much. And while it might actually be bodily dysphoria- I honestly think the real problem is that these children get told &#8220;boys have penises, girls have vaginas&#8221; (or some &#8220;kid-friendly&#8221; version), and think that if they just got rid of the penis they&#8217;d finally be accepted as the girl they know they are. </p>
<p>Raising a child gender neutral has never, to me, been about making a non-binary child. I know too many trans people (and, of course, am one) to think that you can do that. If a child is a girl- she is a girl. It doesn&#8217;t matter if you raise her to be a girl, a boy, or try to stop her from being either. (but guess which one will make her happy) To me, raising a child gender-neutral is to raise a child to know that no matter what they are, what presentation they prefer, what their pronouns are, or who they&#8217;re attracted to- this is fully acceptable and not only will they be loved, they <i>deserve</i> to be loved and respected. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen some parents of a trans child who, every morning, ask their child if they want to be a boy or a girl today- so that the child knows that whichever they choose is fine, and another mom <a href="http://open.salon.com/blog/girlyboymama/2010/05/16/whooooo_are_you_i_really_wanna_know" rel="nofollow">who sometimes &#8220;checks-in&#8221;</a> to see what gender her child is identifying with. You can do some form of that as soon as a child is old enough to show preferences- which isn&#8217;t very old at all. I don&#8217;t really think that a few years of not enforcing gender on a child will ruin them for life if <i>decades</i> of forcing a person into the wrong gender role doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I go back and forth on this one. I am pregnant with my first right now, and recently read The Female Brain by Louann Brizendine, which looks at how the female brain develops differently throughout the lifespan, even at the fetal stage, and there are noticeable behavioral differences even between boy and girl babies. The author is a neuropsychiatrist, and wrote the book partly as a reaction against the large body of research that assumed the male brain was the norm. She doesn&#039;t really get into issues such as homosexual, transgendered, and intersex brains, but the key take-home message for me is that there ARE differences that should be acknowledged so we can raise all our children in the way that best suits them.

That said, I also know that gender is fluid, and that behaviours tend to get stereotyped in certain ways depending on people&#039;s preconceptions about gender. Girls are &quot;bossy,&quot; boys are &quot;confident&quot; or show &quot;leadership.&quot; I don&#039;t know how many people have told me that a boy will be easier to raise in his teens than a girl because girls are &quot;moody&quot; or &quot;they get into way more trouble.&quot; I point out that I know quite a few teen boys who fancy themselves a cross between Hamlet and Holden Caulfield, while the perception of girls getting into more trouble seems to be chiefly driven by the fact that parents have a much higher level of discomfort with their teenage girls drinking, doing drugs, having sex, or getting in physical fights than they do with their teenage boys doing these things; the expectations for good behaviour from girls are so much higher that they are set up to fail. And the boys are kind of set up to fail too, if we have low expectations for them.

So I think the thing to do is try not to over-intellectualize the raising of your children with complex gender theories; rather, just try to commit to encourage them to explore all kinds of experiences, support instead of belittling them when they act against gender type (and making sure others don&#039;t either), and as they get older, raise them to be critical of the gendered expectations that society will sometimes throw their way. As a feminist, I can&#039;t deny that I&#039;ll be disappointed if my child turns out to be an ultra macho man or girly girl, but as someone whose own father always criticized and never really valued who I was, I don&#039;t want to make the mistake of thinking I can shape my kids to be other than who they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I go back and forth on this one. I am pregnant with my first right now, and recently read The Female Brain by Louann Brizendine, which looks at how the female brain develops differently throughout the lifespan, even at the fetal stage, and there are noticeable behavioral differences even between boy and girl babies. The author is a neuropsychiatrist, and wrote the book partly as a reaction against the large body of research that assumed the male brain was the norm. She doesn&#8217;t really get into issues such as homosexual, transgendered, and intersex brains, but the key take-home message for me is that there ARE differences that should be acknowledged so we can raise all our children in the way that best suits them.</p>
<p>That said, I also know that gender is fluid, and that behaviours tend to get stereotyped in certain ways depending on people&#8217;s preconceptions about gender. Girls are &#8220;bossy,&#8221; boys are &#8220;confident&#8221; or show &#8220;leadership.&#8221; I don&#8217;t know how many people have told me that a boy will be easier to raise in his teens than a girl because girls are &#8220;moody&#8221; or &#8220;they get into way more trouble.&#8221; I point out that I know quite a few teen boys who fancy themselves a cross between Hamlet and Holden Caulfield, while the perception of girls getting into more trouble seems to be chiefly driven by the fact that parents have a much higher level of discomfort with their teenage girls drinking, doing drugs, having sex, or getting in physical fights than they do with their teenage boys doing these things; the expectations for good behaviour from girls are so much higher that they are set up to fail. And the boys are kind of set up to fail too, if we have low expectations for them.</p>
<p>So I think the thing to do is try not to over-intellectualize the raising of your children with complex gender theories; rather, just try to commit to encourage them to explore all kinds of experiences, support instead of belittling them when they act against gender type (and making sure others don&#8217;t either), and as they get older, raise them to be critical of the gendered expectations that society will sometimes throw their way. As a feminist, I can&#8217;t deny that I&#8217;ll be disappointed if my child turns out to be an ultra macho man or girly girl, but as someone whose own father always criticized and never really valued who I was, I don&#8217;t want to make the mistake of thinking I can shape my kids to be other than who they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Mommy2theJs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mommy2theJs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this late.. but very iteresting ideas and thoughts :) I remember crying in Target the day we had our ultrasound saying that our 2nd child was a boy. It seems silly now, years later. He is my baby and I love him so much. But just seeing the dozens of racks of cute girl clothes and the literally ONE rack of boring, bland boys clothes, not a single thing without sports, trucks, or dinosaurs made me so sad. I had never realized just how unfair the gender roles society creates are until that moment. Still, 2 years later, I find it unfair and still silently roll my eyes when shopping at the lack of choices for boys, how everything seems to be the same colors or have sports/cars/dinosaurs/dogs almost without exception. This article kind of makes me say &quot;screw society&quot; and go buy him a flowery outfit. heehee  I&#039;m reminded of gender stereotypes everytime I leave the house with him. At least one person everytime we are out tells us what a pretty girl he is.He has long curly hair.. which people always just assume means he is a girl. sigh. Sometimes I correct them, sometimes I just say thank you. But my daughter is 6 and ALWAYS wants to correct this. Yep, she&#039;s hit the age of being very particular about things being gendered.. pink for girls, blue for boys, etc. It makes me sad, as another poster said. But I have gone out of my way to tell her that anyone can like any color, anyone can play dolls or cars or whatever. And sometimes I hear her say those things and it makes me smile. My son and daughter mostly have shared toys, but he has his own dolls too. In fact he breastfeeds them on occasion :D  But, there is also the innate car thing I saw others mention. Both of my kids have always had every type of toy presented and available to them.. dolls, cars, art supplies, blocks, musical instruments, etc. My daughter occasionally played with cars and REALLY wanted an airplane and a helicopter one year and adored them.. but my son is just wild about cars, trucks, planes, trains, robots, etc. I try not to over encourage it or suppress it, just let him do what he is interested in.. but I can&#039;t help but deny there is an innate love for those types of things on his part. And that&#039;s okay. He still loves his dolls. In fact, as I sit here typing at almost 4am (sorry that&#039;s why this is probably incoherant haha) he is sleeping with his favorite babies, one in a pink dress, one in a purple dress. ;)  And that&#039;s okay. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this late.. but very iteresting ideas and thoughts <img src='http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I remember crying in Target the day we had our ultrasound saying that our 2nd child was a boy. It seems silly now, years later. He is my baby and I love him so much. But just seeing the dozens of racks of cute girl clothes and the literally ONE rack of boring, bland boys clothes, not a single thing without sports, trucks, or dinosaurs made me so sad. I had never realized just how unfair the gender roles society creates are until that moment. Still, 2 years later, I find it unfair and still silently roll my eyes when shopping at the lack of choices for boys, how everything seems to be the same colors or have sports/cars/dinosaurs/dogs almost without exception. This article kind of makes me say &#8220;screw society&#8221; and go buy him a flowery outfit. heehee  I&#8217;m reminded of gender stereotypes everytime I leave the house with him. At least one person everytime we are out tells us what a pretty girl he is.He has long curly hair.. which people always just assume means he is a girl. sigh. Sometimes I correct them, sometimes I just say thank you. But my daughter is 6 and ALWAYS wants to correct this. Yep, she&#8217;s hit the age of being very particular about things being gendered.. pink for girls, blue for boys, etc. It makes me sad, as another poster said. But I have gone out of my way to tell her that anyone can like any color, anyone can play dolls or cars or whatever. And sometimes I hear her say those things and it makes me smile. My son and daughter mostly have shared toys, but he has his own dolls too. In fact he breastfeeds them on occasion <img src='http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   But, there is also the innate car thing I saw others mention. Both of my kids have always had every type of toy presented and available to them.. dolls, cars, art supplies, blocks, musical instruments, etc. My daughter occasionally played with cars and REALLY wanted an airplane and a helicopter one year and adored them.. but my son is just wild about cars, trucks, planes, trains, robots, etc. I try not to over encourage it or suppress it, just let him do what he is interested in.. but I can&#8217;t help but deny there is an innate love for those types of things on his part. And that&#8217;s okay. He still loves his dolls. In fact, as I sit here typing at almost 4am (sorry that&#8217;s why this is probably incoherant haha) he is sleeping with his favorite babies, one in a pink dress, one in a purple dress. <img src='http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   And that&#8217;s okay. <img src='http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hodgepodge: well-behaved kids, life insurance for babies, and being in love with Arwyn &#171; Mistress Mom</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/09/raising-him-purple-defense-of-gender-neutrality-in-early-childhood/#comment-3650</link>
		<dc:creator>Hodgepodge: well-behaved kids, life insurance for babies, and being in love with Arwyn &#171; Mistress Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rocks my socks. Now, I&#8217;m not saying that I completely agree with everything she says, but so so so  much of what she writes speaks to the kind of mom I want to be (specifically in the socially- [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Arwyn</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/09/raising-him-purple-defense-of-gender-neutrality-in-early-childhood/#comment-3098</link>
		<dc:creator>Arwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s pretty clear that almost &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt; about us (or at least, the expression of all underlying traits) is both nature and nurture. That is, nurture isn&#039;t going to change anyone&#039;s gender, but it is going to teach them how to perform it. Which means that in this culture, it&#039;s almost inevitable that young girls (both cis and trans) will be in to pink and princesses to &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; extent at least (unless they also have the underlying trait of counter-conformity, like, oh, no one I would know! Certainly no one I would recognize in the mirror...).

And since we can&#039;t completely by our own will change our culture overnight (oh, if only &#039;twere so!), that means that the best we who are raising-kids-purple can do is give them options, and try not to expose them to/push them in to assigned gender roles and gender performance before they pick it up on their own. (Which they will.) Give them at least a &lt;em&gt;chance&lt;/em&gt; to develop according to their own desires, and then yes, let them choose pink and princess if that&#039;s what they&#039;re drawn to from the (limited) options society offers them.

There&#039;s no way that love-of-princess is from &quot;nature&quot; -- but the desire to be girly could be, and yes, to some extent, I think it&#039;s ok to go with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s pretty clear that almost <em>everything</em> about us (or at least, the expression of all underlying traits) is both nature and nurture. That is, nurture isn&#8217;t going to change anyone&#8217;s gender, but it is going to teach them how to perform it. Which means that in this culture, it&#8217;s almost inevitable that young girls (both cis and trans) will be in to pink and princesses to <em>some</em> extent at least (unless they also have the underlying trait of counter-conformity, like, oh, no one I would know! Certainly no one I would recognize in the mirror&#8230;).</p>
<p>And since we can&#8217;t completely by our own will change our culture overnight (oh, if only &#8217;twere so!), that means that the best we who are raising-kids-purple can do is give them options, and try not to expose them to/push them in to assigned gender roles and gender performance before they pick it up on their own. (Which they will.) Give them at least a <em>chance</em> to develop according to their own desires, and then yes, let them choose pink and princess if that&#8217;s what they&#8217;re drawn to from the (limited) options society offers them.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no way that love-of-princess is from &#8220;nature&#8221; &#8212; but the desire to be girly could be, and yes, to some extent, I think it&#8217;s ok to go with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 03:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 3 year old daughter is really in to princesses.  I started out relatively gender neutral (although some of the girly clothes were just soooo cute...no dresses, though, just cute pants and tops) and I -think- I&#039;ve been following her lead by responding to what she likes.  How much of it comes from the inside and how much comes from seeing pictures of girls playing with &quot;girl toys&quot; and her thinking that&#039;s what she&#039;s supposed to like?  It&#039;s so hard to know.

She does like a lot of toys that are traditionally boy toys, but she plays with them in &quot;girl ways&quot;:  her cars talk to each other and she builds castles with her blocks.  Her exposure to mass media is pretty much limited to the Treehouse channel and kid movies; I try as much as possible to find movies with positive messages for girls but it&#039;s hard because even the ones with strong, independent women are all about fashion, too.  I just wonder all the time how much is nature and how much is nurture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 3 year old daughter is really in to princesses.  I started out relatively gender neutral (although some of the girly clothes were just soooo cute&#8230;no dresses, though, just cute pants and tops) and I -think- I&#8217;ve been following her lead by responding to what she likes.  How much of it comes from the inside and how much comes from seeing pictures of girls playing with &#8220;girl toys&#8221; and her thinking that&#8217;s what she&#8217;s supposed to like?  It&#8217;s so hard to know.</p>
<p>She does like a lot of toys that are traditionally boy toys, but she plays with them in &#8220;girl ways&#8221;:  her cars talk to each other and she builds castles with her blocks.  Her exposure to mass media is pretty much limited to the Treehouse channel and kid movies; I try as much as possible to find movies with positive messages for girls but it&#8217;s hard because even the ones with strong, independent women are all about fashion, too.  I just wonder all the time how much is nature and how much is nurture.</p>
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		<title>By: WFPP Guest Post: On Dressing a Daughter…and a Theoretical Son. &#171; Raising My Boychick</title>
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		<dc:creator>WFPP Guest Post: On Dressing a Daughter…and a Theoretical Son. &#171; Raising My Boychick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Raising him purple: a defense of gender neutrality in early childhood [...]</description>
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		<title>By: killingxspree</title>
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		<dc:creator>killingxspree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. I thought i was the only one that thought this way! =) thanks for this insightful post. Im gald i found your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. I thought i was the only one that thought this way! =) thanks for this insightful post. Im gald i found your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Wired For Noise &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Of Girls, Boys, and Gender</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/09/raising-him-purple-defense-of-gender-neutrality-in-early-childhood/#comment-2312</link>
		<dc:creator>Wired For Noise &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Of Girls, Boys, and Gender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This:  I’m not opposed to gender (which would be about as sensical as being opposed to gravity); I’m just opposed to its imposition on children too young to know better, but not too young to be warped by all the baggage it brings with it. I cannot say it better than this: “Turn down the volume on the gender coding. Respond to the child’s personality. Let your child be who he or she is.” Not gender-free. Just free to be whatever gender they are — whatever that means to them. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This:  I’m not opposed to gender (which would be about as sensical as being opposed to gravity); I’m just opposed to its imposition on children too young to know better, but not too young to be warped by all the baggage it brings with it. I cannot say it better than this: “Turn down the volume on the gender coding. Respond to the child’s personality. Let your child be who he or she is.” Not gender-free. Just free to be whatever gender they are — whatever that means to them. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But saying that boys cannot play with cars is just as sexist as saying they must. Girls like cars, boys like cars, the point is to let them be what they want to be and not encourage or discourage stereotypes..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But saying that boys cannot play with cars is just as sexist as saying they must. Girls like cars, boys like cars, the point is to let them be what they want to be and not encourage or discourage stereotypes..</p>
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