WFPP Guest Post: Talking to Strangers

This entry to the Womanist/Feminist Parenting Primer comes from Amber Strocel, who blogs about parenting, life with kids, and maternity leave at Strocel.com.

As the title implies, this post is about Amber’s struggle with first encouraging and then finding herself afraid of her daughter “talking to strangers”. She discusses her own socialization to both fear and avoid offending strangers, and neatly elucidates both how and why teaching “stranger danger” is not only ineffective but potentially dangerous.

Although she doesn’t explicitly relate her desire for “my daughter to feel confident, to be able to trust herself instead of being nice at all costs” to feminism, her reasonings and decisions are emphatically founded in womanist/feminist ideology. The patriarchy would have us — all of us, but especially women, children, and most especially girls — give up our own autonomy and healthy interdependence in favor of unfounded fear and a frightening disregard for our own feelings. Raising a child, then, to trust herself, and to trust those she feels comfortable with, is revolutionary.

Talking to Strangers

My 4-year-old Hannah is very friendly. At the park she strolls right up to people she’s never met and announces, “My name is Hannah!” She tells me, “I say my name and people want to be my friend.” It makes no difference to her if they’re children or adults, if they respond to her advances or even if they speak English. She will chatter away as long as someone occasionally smiles and nods.

Until about a year ago Hannah was too shy to approach strangers. She didn’t have the necessary social or verbal skills to pull off an introduction. I could see her watching kids play and I could tell she wanted to join in but didn’t know how. Sometimes I would help her, and sometimes she preferred to just observe. I really wanted for her to find a way to bridge the social gap, since she seemed to really want to.

When Hannah became confident enough to approach people on her own I was happy for her. Most people were happy to listen to my boisterous preschooler chatter away incessantly. And she really chattered, spewing forth all sorts of information in rapid fire fashion. Where she lives. How I let her eat dry cereal off the floor. The names of all her friends at school. That time she accidentally called 9-1-1 and I was mad. It occurs to me I might not always be portrayed in the most flattering light in these little expositions, on closer examination.

And still more climbing

Listening to Hannah talk and talk and talk some part of my brain screamed Danger! After all, kids aren’t supposed to talk to strangers. Especially not adult strangers. I certainly wasn’t supposed to when I was a kid, anyway. When I was young we were warned about stranger danger and admonished not to accept rides or candy from people we didn’t know. As I watched my daughter chat people up on the playground or at the grocery store I wondered if I should let her do this.

The thing is I don’t believe admonitions about avoiding strangers are all that effective. Anyone who’s ever watched a newsmagazine has seen 7-year-olds get into some guy’s van to help him find a lost puppy. Their mothers swore up and down that their kids would know better, and yet they didn’t. I remember having a preconceived notion of what a ‘stranger’ looked like as a kid myself – in my mind a stranger looked sort of like the Hamburglar. I don’t think that most kids think that someone who seems nice can be a stranger.

Plus the whole message is really very contradictory. I talk to strangers all the time. My kids see me talk to strangers. At the grocery store or the library or sometimes even the sidewalk I will share words with people I’ve never seen before and will probably never see again. I even gave birth in front of people I didn’t know because my daughter was premature and there was a whole team on hand. I suspect that a lot of talk about stranger danger is confusing and pointless.

Hannah drawing chalk art at the playground

On the other hand I don’t want to send my daughter out into the world unequipped. The unfortunate truth is that not everyone has good intentions. While stranger abduction is rare, the statistics about sexual abuse are alarming. According to my local abuse prevention authority 35% of girls in grades 7-12 have experienced sexual abuse. I feel I need to arm my daughter in some way so that she’s not a sitting duck.

But how? I thought about my own childhood and what worked (or mostly didn’t) for me. Like most girls I was raised to be ‘nice’. I wasn’t supposed to talk to strangers, but I also wasn’t supposed to be rude to them under any circumstances. At no point were my own feelings or instincts considered. I have found myself sitting beside people who made me feel uncomfortable, responding as they engaged me in conversation. As much as I wanted to get up and move I didn’t, I ignored the voice in my head because it might have offended someone.

When Hannah talks to strangers she is using her own instincts. As a 4-year-old girl she naturally gravitates towards other children of around the same age. She also likes to talk to other parents, especially if they are playing with their own children. Out in public she talks to the people she sees me talking to – the cashier at the grocery store or the librarian. Although she doesn’t verbalize it, she has an idea of who she is comfortable with and who she isn’t.

Hannah and the hens

In fact, Hannah is doing exactly what she should do. She is seeking out certain people. She is honing her social skills by interacting with them. She is learning who she can trust and who she can’t trust. And she studiously avoids people that she isn’t comfortable with. Since she is only 4 of course I am always nearby, in eyeshot and earshot, ready to assist her if she needs it. But so far she really hasn’t.

I want my daughter to feel confident, to be able to trust herself instead of being nice at all costs. I want her to learn how to seek out the help of others as required, in a way that makes her feel safe. I don’t want her to sit passively beside someone who makes her uncomfortable because she doesn’t trust her own intuition. And I want her to engage with others in positive and meaningful ways. I believe that allowing her to talk to strangers on her own terms is critical to that process. Not forcing her, not coercing her, not dictating that she hug someone she doesn’t want to hug. But also not intervening or preventing if there’s no immediate danger.

The world isn’t always a safe or welcoming place. For better or worse, though, our children will live in it. They need to know how to navigate it. And I have come to believe that talking to strangers is one of the best ways to learn.

Amber Strocel blogs about parenting, life with kids and maternity leave at Strocel.com. She is 33 years old and is still afraid to talk to strangers but thanks to her daughter she’s finally learning how.

9 Responses to WFPP Guest Post: Talking to Strangers

  1. This is something I struggle with all the time. My daughter is extremely outgoing, and I am not. I have had times where it makes me nervous that she's so comfortable with strangers, but I did finally realize that the times she's the most comfortable are when my husband or I are still within sight. She's just got a different comfort zone than I do, and that's okay.

    I am also making an effort to listen to her when she does try to tell me that something makes her uncomfortable. She's only 3 now, so it doesn't happen often, but I want her to know that it's okay when it does. I remember times when there were men or boys that I didn't want near me, or especially touching me, and the few times I tried to explain that to my parents I felt like I was ignored and my feelings were dismissed. I do not ever want that to happen to my daughter.

  2. This is a powerful and very interesting post. It reminds me of ways I was taught to ignore my own feelings, and how that's getting better as the generations pass in my family.

    When I was young, parents routinely told kids to "go hug Aunt Mary"..or "Uncle Doug," no matter how uncomfortable the child was with that. Pedophiles are more likely to be the "Uncle Doug"s of this world, and I'm glad we're valuing the child's autonomy and innate sense of comfort.

    OF COURSE children should talk to strangers: how else will they make friends? But we need to teach them to listen to their intuition and keep safe. That is a higher value than "always be nice."

    I'm having big feelings come up, because I was molested because I had no idea how to deal with a grownup who was being "too friendly." He was not a stranger, but I'd never been taught to value my own feelings and act on behalf of my own safety.

    I think the feminist, humanist ideology that each person, no matter how young, what gender, what color, is of value and has inherent rights is going a long way to protecting our children while allowing them to function in the world. Unfortunately, we still live in a world where only a minority believes that. Let's keep on spreading the word!

  3. craftydabbler

    Like the poster and Tiffany this is a challenge for me. My daughter is extroverted to the nth degree and I am an introvert. She talks to people all the time, everywhere, about everything. Once when she was three she told a man (a parent of a friend) to keep his hands to himself (he was trying to tickle her), and I was so proud of her. I hope she can always be so strong.

  4. Excellent post! I think you'd like "Protecting the Gift", which makes a lot of the same very potent points that you do. The blanket 'don't talk to strangers' has been proven time and again to be ineffective at best. De Becker does get into more specific tips, but he also shares some of the philosophical underpinnings you go into here.

    Your daughter is a gem, by the way.

  5. Thanks everyone for your kind words! I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who struggles with these issues.

    I had the same experience as Johanna – I was told to hug relatives and so on. I don't want to put my own kids in that position for sure.

    And I have read 'Protecting the Gift' – it's a great book! Reading that book I realized how much I disregard my own instincts and intuition. I want to be sure I don't give the same message to my own kids. I'm hoping that my awareness and non-interference will go a long way on that front.

  6. I was blessed to be raised by a mother (JohannaMM hi mom!) who both never forced me to share affection, or my body, with anyone I didn't want to, and who demonstrated friendliness and outgoingness with strangers. When I'm not in an active stage of my mood disorder or social anxiety disorder, I'm very talkative with strangers; sometimes I get weird looks, but far more often I make temporary friends. It's been such a blessing in my life: I've had many enjoyable encounters I wouldn't have had otherwise, and I've never been subjected to uncomfortable encounters where I didn't feel I had a right to protect myself or remove myself from the situation.

    You're doing so well, Amber. Keep it up!

  7. Amber, have you read Protecting the Gift by Gavin DeBecker? He talks about exactly these topics, how to teach your children to be safe – how to talk to strangers, etc. So much of what you said reminds me of that book. It’s really awesome and I highly recommend you check it out if you haven’t already. However, I also must say it’s a tough read because it talks about scary stuff…

    http://www.amazon.com/Protecting-Gift-Keeping-Children-Teenagers/dp/0440509009/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_2

  8. Ok, I guess I should have read the comments before I replied… I see you’ve already read that book. sorry. Great post, though. :)

  9. Also, you might read De Becker’s other book, “The Gift of Fear” – I too struggle with being a little afraid of strangers (even as an adult, I get suspicious sometimes); reading this book helped me understand when I was being RULED by Fear, and when I was simply following my intuition. It gave me confidence to trust my own instincts, but at the same time, not feel like I had to avoid everyone – the book helped me understand the differences. There’s also a chapter on how to talk to your children’s school about how they plan to protect kids from strangers and other dangers.

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