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		<title>By: I am thinking big thoughts &#171; Raising My Boychick</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/05/more-on-checklists/#comment-57214</link>
		<dc:creator>I am thinking big thoughts &#171; Raising My Boychick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 06:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Arwyn</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/05/more-on-checklists/#comment-3521</link>
		<dc:creator>Arwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the problem is inherent in the &quot;AP movement&quot;, but a tendency of &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; humans, especially in groups. Checklists, while superficial and so often erroneous, are &lt;strong&gt;easy&lt;/strong&gt;, and we reach for them rather than for deeper connection regularly, in every circumstance.

GD stands for gentle discipline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the problem is inherent in the &#8220;AP movement&#8221;, but a tendency of <em>all</em> humans, especially in groups. Checklists, while superficial and so often erroneous, are <strong>easy</strong>, and we reach for them rather than for deeper connection regularly, in every circumstance.</p>
<p>GD stands for gentle discipline.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah V.</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/05/more-on-checklists/#comment-3520</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you just put your finger on a huge reason why I&#039;ve never been keen on the whole AP movement.  Somehow there always ends up being a lot more emphasis on checklists than I&#039;m comfortable with.

Anyway, please satisfy my curiosity on one thing: In your comment on the first post, you used the initials &#039;GD&#039;.  I can&#039;t for the life of me work out what that acronym stands for - can you tell me?  (And what&#039;s the betting I then slap my forehead and groan that of &lt;b&gt; , I should have realised...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you just put your finger on a huge reason why I&#8217;ve never been keen on the whole AP movement.  Somehow there always ends up being a lot more emphasis on checklists than I&#8217;m comfortable with.</p>
<p>Anyway, please satisfy my curiosity on one thing: In your comment on the first post, you used the initials &#8216;GD&#8217;.  I can&#8217;t for the life of me work out what that acronym stands for &#8211; can you tell me?  (And what&#8217;s the betting I then slap my forehead and groan that of <b> , I should have realised&#8230;)</b></p>
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		<title>By: The solutions are&#8230; here &#171; Raising My Boychick</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/05/more-on-checklists/#comment-3028</link>
		<dc:creator>The solutions are&#8230; here &#171; Raising My Boychick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Arwyn</title>
		<link>http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/2009/05/more-on-checklists/#comment-361</link>
		<dc:creator>Arwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 13:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly my point!  I&#039;m a big believer in giving the benefit of the doubt for just that reason, and that&#039;s exactly what I&#039;m talking about here (your last line perfectly sums up what I was trying to say in both these posts--maybe I should just replace them with that :p). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So yea, I don&#039;t pretend to know someone&#039;s opinions on breastfeeding or babywearing based solely on seeing them with a bottle or baby bucket. Maybe she has a good reason, and is really a huge lactivist and could teach me a thing or two about wrapping (on the other side, maybe the super cool looking sling wearing hippie mama is an anti-feminist homophobic white supremacist -- true story). But what I meant with what you quoted is that sometimes what looks like a spade really is just a spade, and she&#039;s using a bottle because breastfeeding is disgusting and not worth it, and using a bucket because holding babies spoils them. Which doesn&#039;t make her a bad mom, of course, just not what I&#039;m looking for in a friend at the moment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can&#039;t know just by looking, and so I strive to avoid snap judgments. But /sometimes/, what we discover with further information is that our snap judgments were &quot;correct&quot;, and the more social signals there are pointing one way (bottle feeding AND bucket use AND gender typed clothing), the more likely that is to be true. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But it&#039;s still wrong enough often enough that it isn&#039;t worth it to write people off just for not meeting a checklist of superficialities, and it&#039;s always worth getting the full story because real people are far more interesting than stereotypes. Like I said, people will surprise you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly my point!  I&#8217;m a big believer in giving the benefit of the doubt for just that reason, and that&#8217;s exactly what I&#8217;m talking about here (your last line perfectly sums up what I was trying to say in both these posts&#8211;maybe I should just replace them with that :p). </p>
<p>So yea, I don&#8217;t pretend to know someone&#8217;s opinions on breastfeeding or babywearing based solely on seeing them with a bottle or baby bucket. Maybe she has a good reason, and is really a huge lactivist and could teach me a thing or two about wrapping (on the other side, maybe the super cool looking sling wearing hippie mama is an anti-feminist homophobic white supremacist &#8212; true story). But what I meant with what you quoted is that sometimes what looks like a spade really is just a spade, and she&#8217;s using a bottle because breastfeeding is disgusting and not worth it, and using a bucket because holding babies spoils them. Which doesn&#8217;t make her a bad mom, of course, just not what I&#8217;m looking for in a friend at the moment.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t know just by looking, and so I strive to avoid snap judgments. But /sometimes/, what we discover with further information is that our snap judgments were &#8220;correct&#8221;, and the more social signals there are pointing one way (bottle feeding AND bucket use AND gender typed clothing), the more likely that is to be true. </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s still wrong enough often enough that it isn&#8217;t worth it to write people off just for not meeting a checklist of superficialities, and it&#8217;s always worth getting the full story because real people are far more interesting than stereotypes. Like I said, people will surprise you.</p>
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		<title>By: Anji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 10:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And I might even be &quot;right&quot; to write off the bottle feeder, because unless there&#039;s an underlying story there (special needs infant and the mom&#039;s on chemo, as an example), we probably don&#039;t have much in common, at least in parenting philosophies.&lt;/i&gt;Not necessarily true, that. I was that bottle feeder! I fed my son formula from when he was about a week and a half old for various reasons, but I&#039;m still a huge breastfeeding advocate. A person&#039;s actions and the way their life has gone, do not always reflect their &lt;i&gt;feelings&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;opinions&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And I might even be &#8220;right&#8221; to write off the bottle feeder, because unless there&#8217;s an underlying story there (special needs infant and the mom&#8217;s on chemo, as an example), we probably don&#8217;t have much in common, at least in parenting philosophies.</i>Not necessarily true, that. I was that bottle feeder! I fed my son formula from when he was about a week and a half old for various reasons, but I&#8217;m still a huge breastfeeding advocate. A person&#8217;s actions and the way their life has gone, do not always reflect their <i>feelings</i> and <i>opinions</i>.</p>
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