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	<title>Comments on: Passing for straight: parenting with a man as a queer identified woman</title>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another who&#039;s just found this!  I&#039;m in almost the opposite situation, I&#039;m a completely hetero woman with a bi husband and 2 children.  It&#039;s interesting to hear about other people&#039;s situations.  Being with me is pretty much the only time he&#039;s ever been monogamous, but he isn&#039;t out to the world at large.  I suspect the reason is that he&#039;s always had to hide his activity - in suburbia it&#039;s more acceptable to be gay than to cheat!  Ironically now that he&#039;s completely open with me, he is no longer acting bisexually and is also in the breeder role.  So there&#039;s no longer anything to come out about.  We currently comment and compare attractive men, it will be interesting to see if that continues when our kids get older and more aware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another who&#8217;s just found this!  I&#8217;m in almost the opposite situation, I&#8217;m a completely hetero woman with a bi husband and 2 children.  It&#8217;s interesting to hear about other people&#8217;s situations.  Being with me is pretty much the only time he&#8217;s ever been monogamous, but he isn&#8217;t out to the world at large.  I suspect the reason is that he&#8217;s always had to hide his activity &#8211; in suburbia it&#8217;s more acceptable to be gay than to cheat!  Ironically now that he&#8217;s completely open with me, he is no longer acting bisexually and is also in the breeder role.  So there&#8217;s no longer anything to come out about.  We currently comment and compare attractive men, it will be interesting to see if that continues when our kids get older and more aware.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesbian/Bisexual Woman of the Decade &#8212; onward to stage two! &#171; Raising My Boychick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lesbian/Bisexual Woman of the Decade &#8212; onward to stage two! &#171; Raising My Boychick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Arwyn
I&#039;m another later blog nomad wandering here.  I&#039;ve been out to friends as bisexual since my teens, but I used to encounter assumptions of straightness and even when told otherwise, sometimes disbelief of my bisexuality/pansexuality as being any more than a phase. 
But the broken record technique does work after a few years.  Since I joined a number of GLBTI groups and started self-identifying as bisexual at national gatherings like the NZ Interfaith Forum, I have gradually gained some recogntion as a queer activist.  This in spite of being married to a man for 15 years. 

My 13 year old son is aware of my sexuality.  He says he&#039;s straight but he doesn&#039;t mind how other people identify.  To him, homophobia is just another type of bullying and he doesn&#039;t like bullying.

But I still want to protect him from teasing because of me, so while I&#039;m out at work and in my own spheres of life, I don&#039;t self-identify as queer at my son&#039;s school.  Teenagers can be cruel if they identify a potential chink in the impression of normality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Arwyn<br />
I&#8217;m another later blog nomad wandering here.  I&#8217;ve been out to friends as bisexual since my teens, but I used to encounter assumptions of straightness and even when told otherwise, sometimes disbelief of my bisexuality/pansexuality as being any more than a phase.<br />
But the broken record technique does work after a few years.  Since I joined a number of GLBTI groups and started self-identifying as bisexual at national gatherings like the NZ Interfaith Forum, I have gradually gained some recogntion as a queer activist.  This in spite of being married to a man for 15 years. </p>
<p>My 13 year old son is aware of my sexuality.  He says he&#8217;s straight but he doesn&#8217;t mind how other people identify.  To him, homophobia is just another type of bullying and he doesn&#8217;t like bullying.</p>
<p>But I still want to protect him from teasing because of me, so while I&#8217;m out at work and in my own spheres of life, I don&#8217;t self-identify as queer at my son&#8217;s school.  Teenagers can be cruel if they identify a potential chink in the impression of normality.</p>
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		<title>By: shinynewcoin</title>
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		<dc:creator>shinynewcoin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for such a thoughtful response. That&#039;s exactly what those niggling voices in my head are saying, so it&#039;s both comforting and plenty to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for such a thoughtful response. That&#8217;s exactly what those niggling voices in my head are saying, so it&#8217;s both comforting and plenty to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: Arwyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m altogether too familiar with that feeling (the &quot;can&#039;t still claim a place while exercising/possessing hetero privilege&quot; feeling), and I can&#039;t entirely dismiss it, because there is something there. There ARE those who, it seems, claim the title for titillation then run back into a privileged world because it&#039;s easier. (When I&#039;m not frustrated as hell with them, I can almost feel compassion, because the kyriarchy has created a system in which to be queer really &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; that scary and sometimes that dangerous, and it is so much easier to pass for straight.) And no amount of waving my queer flag is going to eliminate my very real, very copious hetero privilege.

But. But. It was the very invisibility of bisexuality -- real, sometimes monogamous, nuanced, sometimes straight-partnered bisexuality -- that made me so confused for so long (ok, not long compared to some -- I came out the first time when I was 14 -- but far longer than I&#039;d&#039;ve liked). There was straight, and there was queer, and never the twain did meet in my knowledge (except in mega-uber-nympho-slutbunnies/psycho killers of bad b-movie infamy), and so I had no idea where I fit. And I &lt;b&gt;know&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;m not the only person for whom that is true. 

It is ONLY by coming out as bi -- all of us, male partnered, female partnered, not partnered, polyamourous, monogamous, serialist, low sex-drive and nymphos alike -- that we can do away with that invisibility, and make it easier for the next generation who know they&#039;re not quite gay and not quite straight and need a name and thus an understanding and acceptance for who and what they are.

Just like when I feel out of place in feminist circles because of my life circumstances -- taking care of the Boychick during the day, being financially dependent on The Man, not having a degree and a back-up plan -- I refuse to allow that to shut me out, because I &lt;i&gt;am&lt;/i&gt; feminist, and I &lt;i&gt;am&lt;/i&gt; queer, and it is ultimately kyriarchy that creates the systems that would shut me out. I&#039;m a cis white feminist, and a bisexual woman with mountains of straight privilege, so I need to not insist on being centered in those spaces, and to be sure to center others whose voices are more marginalized, whose lives are more at risk. But I will not give up my right to being in them altogether, because that too is a concession to kyriarchy, which would have us be divided and therefore weakened.

Which is not to try to tell you -- or anyone else -- what to do. I&#039;m not in your shoes, your life, so I can&#039;t know all the factors in your decision. But that&#039;s how I&#039;ve answered those niggling voices (&quot;but you&#039;re not &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; queer, here, let me chop off that limb for you&quot;) for myself. For whatever that&#039;s worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m altogether too familiar with that feeling (the &#8220;can&#8217;t still claim a place while exercising/possessing hetero privilege&#8221; feeling), and I can&#8217;t entirely dismiss it, because there is something there. There ARE those who, it seems, claim the title for titillation then run back into a privileged world because it&#8217;s easier. (When I&#8217;m not frustrated as hell with them, I can almost feel compassion, because the kyriarchy has created a system in which to be queer really <i>is</i> that scary and sometimes that dangerous, and it is so much easier to pass for straight.) And no amount of waving my queer flag is going to eliminate my very real, very copious hetero privilege.</p>
<p>But. But. It was the very invisibility of bisexuality &#8212; real, sometimes monogamous, nuanced, sometimes straight-partnered bisexuality &#8212; that made me so confused for so long (ok, not long compared to some &#8212; I came out the first time when I was 14 &#8212; but far longer than I&#8217;d've liked). There was straight, and there was queer, and never the twain did meet in my knowledge (except in mega-uber-nympho-slutbunnies/psycho killers of bad b-movie infamy), and so I had no idea where I fit. And I <b>know</b> I&#8217;m not the only person for whom that is true. </p>
<p>It is ONLY by coming out as bi &#8212; all of us, male partnered, female partnered, not partnered, polyamourous, monogamous, serialist, low sex-drive and nymphos alike &#8212; that we can do away with that invisibility, and make it easier for the next generation who know they&#8217;re not quite gay and not quite straight and need a name and thus an understanding and acceptance for who and what they are.</p>
<p>Just like when I feel out of place in feminist circles because of my life circumstances &#8212; taking care of the Boychick during the day, being financially dependent on The Man, not having a degree and a back-up plan &#8212; I refuse to allow that to shut me out, because I <i>am</i> feminist, and I <i>am</i> queer, and it is ultimately kyriarchy that creates the systems that would shut me out. I&#8217;m a cis white feminist, and a bisexual woman with mountains of straight privilege, so I need to not insist on being centered in those spaces, and to be sure to center others whose voices are more marginalized, whose lives are more at risk. But I will not give up my right to being in them altogether, because that too is a concession to kyriarchy, which would have us be divided and therefore weakened.</p>
<p>Which is not to try to tell you &#8212; or anyone else &#8212; what to do. I&#8217;m not in your shoes, your life, so I can&#8217;t know all the factors in your decision. But that&#8217;s how I&#8217;ve answered those niggling voices (&#8220;but you&#8217;re not <i>really</i> queer, here, let me chop off that limb for you&#8221;) for myself. For whatever that&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: shinynewcoin</title>
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		<dc:creator>shinynewcoin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Arwyn, this post is months and months old but I just stumbled on it while exploring blogs by my tweeps. 

Although I&#039;m not a parent a lot of what you&#039;re saying struck a nerve with me and is exactly what&#039;s going through my head at the moment. I&#039;m in a similar space to Karen in that I never applied the word bisexual to myself until recently and only my partner and a close friend know. It seems a strange middling place to be in which I have so much hetero privilege I hardly feel I&#039;m allowed to claim the title, but to ignore it feels like trying to ignore my left arm. I recently had an argument with the same close friend because she totally feels she can lay claim to the title despite also being in a relationship with a man (the argument was my fault, I was an arse). I can&#039;t shake the feeling that while bisexual people are represented on the GLBTI spectrum, I can&#039;t claim a place in it while I still exercise hetero privilege (whether I want it or not). 

Anyway, this has been circling my mind for a long time so these thoughts might be a bit rambling. Thanks for writing the post at any rate. I&#039;ll bookmark it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Arwyn, this post is months and months old but I just stumbled on it while exploring blogs by my tweeps. </p>
<p>Although I&#8217;m not a parent a lot of what you&#8217;re saying struck a nerve with me and is exactly what&#8217;s going through my head at the moment. I&#8217;m in a similar space to Karen in that I never applied the word bisexual to myself until recently and only my partner and a close friend know. It seems a strange middling place to be in which I have so much hetero privilege I hardly feel I&#8217;m allowed to claim the title, but to ignore it feels like trying to ignore my left arm. I recently had an argument with the same close friend because she totally feels she can lay claim to the title despite also being in a relationship with a man (the argument was my fault, I was an arse). I can&#8217;t shake the feeling that while bisexual people are represented on the GLBTI spectrum, I can&#8217;t claim a place in it while I still exercise hetero privilege (whether I want it or not). </p>
<p>Anyway, this has been circling my mind for a long time so these thoughts might be a bit rambling. Thanks for writing the post at any rate. I&#8217;ll bookmark it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it&#039;s just a matter of how I interpret my own dreams.  I don&#039;t really have any feelings for anyone else, so when I have sex dreams about other people, they don&#039;t seem meaningful to me or linger in my mind.  I just think of the sex in those dreams as a metaphor for something else.  But I do, occasionally, wish my husband were a woman.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He just read this comment and has informed me matter-of-factly that this wish is a result of our Culture of Dissatisfaction.  :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyway, I feel like my dreams where he is a woman are a direct result of that.  I have this desire, which I feel is disrespectful to my husband.  I would be sad if he wished I had, for example, larger breasts (I have very small breasts), and had dreams that I had larger breasts, so I feel guilty when I have fantasies (or dreams) about changing his body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it&#8217;s just a matter of how I interpret my own dreams.  I don&#8217;t really have any feelings for anyone else, so when I have sex dreams about other people, they don&#8217;t seem meaningful to me or linger in my mind.  I just think of the sex in those dreams as a metaphor for something else.  But I do, occasionally, wish my husband were a woman.</p>
<p>He just read this comment and has informed me matter-of-factly that this wish is a result of our Culture of Dissatisfaction.  <img src='http://www.raisingmyboychick.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, I feel like my dreams where he is a woman are a direct result of that.  I have this desire, which I feel is disrespectful to my husband.  I would be sad if he wished I had, for example, larger breasts (I have very small breasts), and had dreams that I had larger breasts, so I feel guilty when I have fantasies (or dreams) about changing his body.</p>
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		<title>By: Arwyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chex:  &lt;i&gt;I often wonder if I would have ended up with a woman had I gone into a different profession. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s a good question, and I think a fair one.  I met The Man early enough in my life that there wasn&#039;t much I could have done differently, but I do wonder if I had been at somewhere with more diversity and more openness than our suburban high school, where the women-attracted-women were slim on the ground (one I chased before The Man, and one who chased me, and probably another couple who stayed off our social circle&#039;s radar), whether I still would have ended up with, well, a straight white male.  And yet I also cannot at all regret the way it turned out (even the thought of changing it actually gives me anxiety), for he is my lifemate, and it would be hard to imagine how someone could be &lt;i&gt;better&lt;/i&gt; for me than he is.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;But once he asked me if I feel guilty when I have sex dreams about other people. I don&#039;t. But I do feel a little bit guilty when I have sex dreams about him as a woman.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For me it&#039;s exactly the other way around!  I&#039;d be really interested in knowing your reasoning there.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(Tiffany -- Thanks.  Miss you!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chex:  <i>I often wonder if I would have ended up with a woman had I gone into a different profession. </i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good question, and I think a fair one.  I met The Man early enough in my life that there wasn&#8217;t much I could have done differently, but I do wonder if I had been at somewhere with more diversity and more openness than our suburban high school, where the women-attracted-women were slim on the ground (one I chased before The Man, and one who chased me, and probably another couple who stayed off our social circle&#8217;s radar), whether I still would have ended up with, well, a straight white male.  And yet I also cannot at all regret the way it turned out (even the thought of changing it actually gives me anxiety), for he is my lifemate, and it would be hard to imagine how someone could be <i>better</i> for me than he is.</p>
<p><i>But once he asked me if I feel guilty when I have sex dreams about other people. I don&#8217;t. But I do feel a little bit guilty when I have sex dreams about him as a woman.</i></p>
<p>For me it&#8217;s exactly the other way around!  I&#8217;d be really interested in knowing your reasoning there.</p>
<p>(Tiffany &#8212; Thanks.  Miss you!)</p>
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		<title>By: The Noble Fat N Happy One</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Noble Fat N Happy One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said Arwyn. i completely know that feeling. the constantly being put into the &quot;straight breeder&quot; box, and having to constantly come out as queer identified.&lt;br/&gt;*le sigh* as always, you put my own feelings into way better words than i could ever articulate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said Arwyn. i completely know that feeling. the constantly being put into the &#8220;straight breeder&#8221; box, and having to constantly come out as queer identified.<br />*le sigh* as always, you put my own feelings into way better words than i could ever articulate</p>
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		<title>By: Chex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have children yet, but I&#039;ve been married to a man for three years, since I was 22.  So far, I&#039;m still in touch with enough people who knew me when I was dating women to have it be a given.  My husband actually dated men in high school, although he&#039;s never been as out as I am.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is definitely something that&#039;s on my mind a lot.  I often wonder if I would have ended up with a woman had I gone into a different profession.  There just aren&#039;t that many women in the games industry in general, and at my college in particular.  I&#039;m one of only ten women (eight of whom are only into men) in my graduating class of 150.  And it&#039;s really impractical to have a relationship with someone outside of the school, since students spend pretty much all their time (60+ hours a week) working in the labs.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Not that I regret being with my husband.  I love him, we have an excellent relationship.  But once he asked me if I feel guilty when I have sex dreams about other people.  I don&#039;t.  But I do feel a little bit guilty when I have sex dreams about him as a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have children yet, but I&#8217;ve been married to a man for three years, since I was 22.  So far, I&#8217;m still in touch with enough people who knew me when I was dating women to have it be a given.  My husband actually dated men in high school, although he&#8217;s never been as out as I am.  </p>
<p>This is definitely something that&#8217;s on my mind a lot.  I often wonder if I would have ended up with a woman had I gone into a different profession.  There just aren&#8217;t that many women in the games industry in general, and at my college in particular.  I&#8217;m one of only ten women (eight of whom are only into men) in my graduating class of 150.  And it&#8217;s really impractical to have a relationship with someone outside of the school, since students spend pretty much all their time (60+ hours a week) working in the labs.</p>
<p>Not that I regret being with my husband.  I love him, we have an excellent relationship.  But once he asked me if I feel guilty when I have sex dreams about other people.  I don&#8217;t.  But I do feel a little bit guilty when I have sex dreams about him as a woman.</p>
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